In this episode, Lisa and Robyn Gobbel talk about a topic never discussed before on this podcast and super important for us as clinicians working with kids … They’re talking about the brain (…Robyn loves to talk about the brain), and more specifically how to teach kids about the brain. 

But first, we’re so excited to announce Robyn’s new book coming out this month, Raising Kids with Big Baffling Behaviors: Brain-Body-Sensory Strategies that Really Work!! Weaving together relational neuroscience with practical ideas and application, Robyn has created the ultimate guide for parents who would love to understand and ultimately transform their children’s challenging behaviors into safety and connection (… guaranteed, after listening to this episode, you’re going to want to go get your copy today!). Robyn also gets the reward for favorite bio that Lisa has ever read … see below for Robyn’s bio (… it really gives you a sense of her awesomeness) and a link to her website to learn about her new book and so many helpful resources for you as a clinician and when supporting caregivers – she’s truly creating something very unique, very special, and very extraordinary. 

Enjoy this fun and engaging podcast about teaching kids about the brain (… because sometimes, as clinicians we think, oh yeah, that’s a good idea, but we don’t always know how to actually go about doing it), as well as how to empower kids and grown-ups to understand their brain and themselves more fully. 

In this episode, you’ll hear:

  • A discussion about the importance of understanding the brain and its impact on behavior.
  • How Robyn’s own experience with learning about the brain transformed her life and relationships.
  • Strategies for introducing the topic of the brain to children, including visual aids and creating a safe space for curiosity (… including introduction to the concept of the Watchdog and Possum brain pathways as a way to explain brain functions to kids, as well as the importance of the Owl pathway for safety, connection, and presence).
  • How children’s baffling behaviors stem from a longing for safety and connection.
  • How to involve caregivers in the therapeutic process and help them to understand and recognize their child(ren)’s behaviors from a neurological perspective. 

Listen to this super insightful episode that will encourage curiosity in yourself, support you in your work with caregivers and help them to understand their child(ren)’s behaviors with the same curiosity and understanding, and a deeper appreciation for how ALL children’s behaviors make so much sense.

*Robyn Gobbel, MSW, loves coffee, P!NK, and everything about the brain. Once (recently!) her teenager went ballistic on her for getting ANOTHER (glitter!) coffee mug in the mail. Robyn loves cultivating deep, resonant connections with anyone who is up for it, and is especially fond of all the grown-ups in the world who love and care for kids impacted by trauma- helpers, healers, educators, and parents.  Her favorite thing ever (besides glittery coffee mugs) is teaching anyone who will listen to harness the power of neuroscience so they can cultivate deep, resonant connections. What would change in the world if we could all do that? To see, be with, feel, and deeply know each other…and ourselves. Robyn thinks everything could change.  You can get your hands on all sorts of free resources at, including her podcast, The Baffling Behavior Show. Robyn is the author of Raising Kids with Big, Baffling Behaviors: Brain-Body-Sensory Strategies that Really Work (September 2023). Get Robyn’s book, Raising Kids with Big Baffling Behaviors here:

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